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First Linux Action Show released using the new HTML5 Video Tag – The RESULTS!

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In my previous blog post, I talked about my concerned about the fanboi like rapid following of everything OGG, Theora, Vorbis and how it all sounds like just blind following with out any real consideration of the technology.

Even with my concerns with Theora, I wrapped the post saying that we’d be using VIDEO tag with OGG Theora. My feeling is I want the audience to get the content in what ever format they prefer, and I really believe making something like the video tag is very important for online content. While Theora has its limits and issues, the idea is a good one. I also realize that the issues I called out will never improve unless people use Theora today and so with that in mind the last three video on jupiterbroadcasting.com including the latest Linux Action Show episode have been posted with the video tag version of the show.

The results have been positive, especially from those with Firefox 3.5. Internet Explorer users, and older Firefox users get a flash player fallback. Safari users get a QuickTime h.264 fallback automatically.

I’ve had a few reports of people who experienced issues with the videos auto-playing, it would seem Firefox 3.5 has not yet implemented the autoplay=yes|no ability yet, while other browsers have and expect it. It would seem most browsers figure if autoplay= is not declared, the default is NO. While other browsers (think a slim few) seem to assume YES, and begin playing the videos on page load. Not only is that annoying, but when you are on our front page it means the current 3 videos posted using <video> start playing. Just about kills any browser.

To embed with the tag and keep the fancy code intact with a wordpress post, I have installed a WordPress plugin called RAW HTML, this lets me put a area in any WordPress post that get’s ignored by the WordPress editor, and is then passed on as raw HTML. I’ve had issues with the WordPress editor eating code before that I stick in the source of a post, so this seems like a great way to get around that.

Here is an example of an embed video:

No video playback capabilities detected.

My embed code was inspired by the Video For Everybody post that Kroc created.


July 6th, 2009  
Tags: HTML5, OGG, Theora, Video for Everyone

  • Tommy Brunn
    You know, I've been thinking, why not let the user decide what format they want to view the videos in? Just because you're using Firefox 3.5, you might not want to watch the Theora version.
  • Michael
    @Alex, it seems to me that the standardisation of a general web codec is entirely to do with content providers catering for every potential viewer. Which was the idea behind enforcing Theora as a web standard, because otherwise it will default to the most commonly available codecs ie h264, and Theora would never get a look in. The odd thing is that commercial companies don't seem to ever want to ship theora or vorbis despite being no issue to them legally. It would make sense to me for Directshow to just include Theora and Vorbis and the entire problem would disappear overnight.
    Chris, have you checked out the BBC's open source Dirac codec? Not very well supported outside of gstreamer and vlc, bur perhaps that's a better candidate than Theora what do you think?
  • jason
    I thought you might want to know that your title on your homepage is bin-flase.org and that's how it shows up in google.
  • Alex Shenoy
    I agree that the video tag within the HTML 5 Spec and things like the SVG animation are pretty awesome. The thing I noticed though, is that there is no full screen mode. Also, I don't really prefer the OGG video format. I think it would help for them to use a different codec format.

    Here is my concern. Why is it so important that they use only one codec. I understand there are patent issues, but couldn't they use codecs available on a person's computer. If you think about how Windows Media Player works(Or any media player), it doesn't have any built in codecs other than WMA and WMV. But if I install a codec pack, I can get support for all different kinds of video formats. Wouldn't that be a more preferable way to go. This way, the company producing the browser doesn't need to worry about the video codecs because they aren't shipping them.

    I can understand that limiting the format to one is helpful in ensuring that users can always view video, but it's limiting in so many ways to content developers. And I think that the use of OGG instead of H264 will not win over adopters who already use flash.
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